[gica]

Hey Dave wanted to paint the bottom of the skis flat black and I read that enamel is the best or PPG gel. Some fuy said appliance paint at Ace Hardware is great and lasts.
I have access to base and clear but I somehow don't think it's steongenough for ocean and rough patches.
What do you think?⁹

 

[Dave in DE]

You could use an auto polyurethane or epoxy paint. I think they would hold up best. They generally are harder paints. Either one will require an epoxy based primer.
One thing to remember, this is an SMC hull not regular fiberglass. SMC or sheet molded compound is a type of fiberglass. It has release agents mixed into the material for compression molding. This takes special precautions and treatment to get a good bond when painting. This would apply to anywhere that gets sanded below the factory paint to actual hull material. I believe you just need to wipe with acetone before priming if I remember correctly. You'll have to read up on it beforehand to be sure.
Just a heads up, there is lots of info on the web on painting and repairing SMC. Do a bit of searching and reading up on it. Easy to deal with once you understand procedure and use correct chemicals. I've done several small repairs and used Krylon white spray and blended it and wet sanded for a great match. Here's Pics of one I did a few yrs back on a friend's ski.

 

[gica]

Looks great the reason I asked is one guy said epoxy cracks on fiberglass.
So if I wanted to paint the underside black I still have to use the epoxy primer and then paint. These are better than base and clear? On my kids gp1200r he wants it black lile the newer ones. So appliance epoxy over primer should work. Got to read on pre paint sanding and acetone to clean. De wax is also a thing with these.

 

[Dave in DE]

If you don't sand down through the factory paint. Which is fairly thick. You can clean and paint no special treatment. Only if you hit the SMC do you need to use epoxy primer on that spot.
Typical base/clear coat paints are not as durable as polyurethane or epoxy. The appliance black should be fine. Yamaha just used single stage enamel paint. Nothing special.

 

[gica]

Is there a special paint for the rubbery parts?

 

[ZARDOZ]

Hello all. Reports of my demise have been exaggerated. I am still around, alive and kicking sometimes. I have been dead before, back in 2013, but I came back.

Happy to report that my two main machines are still working well. I have had them out a couple of times this season. My son who is in college had me take him and four of his friends out for an afternoon. We met up with four, nubile young college girls, who were his friends. I had to take a couple of girls out on the ski and ride them around. The sacrifices I make for my children. I just told them, "Hold me tighter if you want me to drive faster."

Wonderful day until my son said, "Dad, some water was getting in the 'glove compartment' where your cell phone was so I put it in the front bin." Front bin always gets a little water in it. Sure enough, cell phone was under 1 1/2 of water and was cooked. Turned out to be $500 day. But I was going 60+ across the water with a college girl on the machine with me = priceless.

My friend has not yet competed the rebuild of the third machine. He recently lost his wife in a tragedy and I have been trying to get him to work on the ski to get his mind off of his loss.

I will try and keep a better eye on the forum. This really should have been a "hello I'm back" separate post but I know that now your guys' minds will be at ease knowing I am alive and safe.

Don't kno about Rods. Hope he is well, also.

Zardoz

 

[Dave in DE]

Zardoz, WELCOME BACK!! glad to see you back. How you doing? Last I talked to you, you had just had knee replacment that went south.
Haven't been able to reach Rodsatheart. Not by PM or phone. Don't know whats up. He hasn't been on in about 4 or 5 months. Hope he's well.

 

[ZARDOZ]

I don't want to hijack this thread. I will start another one to catch up on life.

It seems like the "heart" has been ripped from the Forum. It cannot be the same without him. But I guess if we survived the departure of Ernest T, we can survive Rods' absence too.

Go fast. Go Yamaha.

Z

 

[gica]

You can hijack all You want here we're all friends linked together by these damn beautiful machines. Good to hear from you again.

 

[gica]

So today I finally took the damn Yamaha's to the marina and put them on water. That's the good news. The bad news is that the XL1200LTD got sea water in the engine compartment and died. No display, nothing but silence. The other one GP1200R was there too an towed the broken one back to the marina. So at the marina one was draining a large amount of water the other none. So I think the water went in through the front storage compartment it's not double taped on the edges and the water was going pretty high up on the ski. The other one has some kind of sticky tape on the edge and it's in place pretty solid.
At home I checked and there was no water in the cylinders.
So the thing is dead electrically.
Checked the 4 fuses and all good. Battery all good. I am sure water went to the starter and shorted something probably in the main box where the 4 fuses are. Didn't check the manual yet. I am still pretty pissed off temporarily though.
So is there anything you can tell me about this? Thanks in advance
The Gp1200R did ok but didn't have a chance to push it. Just 5mph in the marina and towing back. At some point
It did turn off but turned back on. The idle sounded a bit low.

 

[gica]

I see nobody's around so I did some testing.
I took out the control box undid the bolts and looked inside.
So at the solenoid when I press the green start button I get 12v on the brown so it works. But cannot crank, if I jump 2 big reds it cranks. So solenoid is toast.
The dash works but I need to press directly on it to get full access since start doesn't trigger.
Now for the start the battery is kind of low so am getting it recharged. I did not get spark with tester on lower battery. On the wire that goes to the coil I got some flickering when jump cranking. There is ground and on crank it flickers with test light from positive.
So that's it so far need to get the solenoid first.

 

[Dave in DE]

Sorry, has been busy weekend and haven't been on.
Sounds like your on right track though. Just keep tracing wires for power once the solenoid is in.

 

[gica]

I changed the starter relay and I was able to start the Xl1200LTD.
I also found out why I got flooded. There was a hose under the exhaust manifold that was out. Forgot to tighten the clamp. It's a really thin one that is right above the starter and goes to the manifold.
Also can you go to my Dropbox and look at the 2 videos. One is the XL1200Ltd and wanted to know if I wot the throttle in the parkinglot it doesn't sound smooth at high rpm. Is that because it's not in the water?
The GP1200R has an engine noise and wanted to know if it's piston slap
or lower connecting rods
Making the tac tac sound.
Whenever you get a chance.

XL1200LTD GP1200R

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[Dave in DE]

On XL. It sounds like impeller rattle. It could be from pump brgs being worn/bad, wear ring sweld and hitting impeller. I don't really here anything from the motor.

On the GPr I cant really tell. I can hear it, but can't discern what it is. It sounds more solid then piston slap, but still could be. Is it rod?? I can't tell.

 

[gica]

So for the brgs how hard is it to do?
Also also when I rev up to full throttle it tends to not run smooth is that normal for these 2 strokes.

 

[Dave in DE]

you are probably hearing it hitting the rev limiter when reving out of the water.

Pump brgs aren't to difficult. Easier with a press but can be done with brass hammer and punch. I would suggest replacing impeller as well.

Check your impeller to ring clearance before disassembly. 014/.018" is clearance figures tighter is better.