I have 1 Polaris left 2003 Genesis had a 2002 freedom with some probs in the past in which you guys helped me out with "over at the other board":cheeky4:. kinda went the way of Kawi but still would always read Polaris forums over there always straightforward and very helpful. But since sbt decided to flex there muscles & put more of a corporate spin on things I've lost interest in that site. Some users may have jumped the gun before maybe talking to the right people & thats understandable we have a lot of time & money rapped up in this sport. But a forum is a place to voice yourself & share info not to be spyed on & banned for voicing your opinion.